Humanity at Crossroads

These last couple of days especially and over the weeks, alternative papers and news sources, tweets, the gab, instagram, and blogs are flooded with many pieces of the big puzzle to be absorbed by us and our common sense. This is extraordinary happening works, allowing us to get a grip on what is going on and, ideally, sharing that knowledge with our less awakened family and friends that need more convincing evidence before accepting our shouts.

For Faith and Courage

One such a fine piece with great insight is well researched and described in the link below. Make sure to read it through to the bottom, some excellent pointers to pick up.

Humanity a Crossroads: Connecting the dots to our Brave New World

The Emotional Preparation for The Event

How to deal with your own reaction and the reaction of others to the emotional shock of the Event. The key is to become self-aware and develop an Emotional Consciousness.

This update will bring some theory and some practice that can help you to have faster results because in this way we unite the two parts of our mind to act as one and learn to access the knowledge that already exists within us. Awakening our Super SELF.

Dear ones, we are living in a time of change, and although the evidence may not yet be fully visible on a physical level, things are well advanced behind the scenes and the process is accelerating more and more. As more people connect to their true purposes in this reality, more people anchor more light in Gaia and more closer we are to live something extraordinary in the history of our planet and in our own existence as eternal consciences. For each one of you is a magnificent extension of the source. We are already beginning to experience fragments of the 5th dimension and must shape our lives to be resonant with this new age.

The reason I am writing this message to you at this key point of the planetary transition is to bring light to the knowledge that can accelerate, and make easier, the whole individual and collective process of preparation for the event and for ascension. Just as I received the help of the masters to perform my own healing and the healing of other people. I am guided by them to share with you some ways to prepare for what will come in a very brief future, as well as for what is already happening. Regardless of the external changes that we are waiting for, we must begin our internal change right away. And understanding who we are can help us to understand the others.

At this time there are many people that are not awake, others awakening, lightworkers, and star seeds, embodied in physical bodies. Everyone undergoing updates in the DNA, receiving light packets and activations. They are also going through the transmutation process of past energies, receiving the powerful light waves of the Great Galactic Central Sun, whether or not being are aware of it. And this whole process can be very challenging. Because we are confronted with our “dark” side which manifests as difficulties in all facets of our 3D reality experience and a certain temporary emotional imbalance can occur. For example, in close relationships, family or marital and also in the form of traumas of the past, which we thought were solved. Now they reappear like ghosts to haunt us. These are waste of old energies that we need to cleanse from our psyche so that we are in higher vibrations and can reach our maximum potential.

We also perceive that the more we seek the elevation of our consciousness, the more we feel the effects on our physical body, it is a kind of “catharsis” as a result of interconnection between our emotional-mental-physical fields. In fact when we speak at any level of our being we can not separate one of our “bodies” from another (we have several), because what affects us at any level, from the densest to the most subtle is all interconnected. Therefore, by working on healing at any level you will be working simultaneously on your other bodies.

You need to understand that above all on any level, any plane, any planet or star, in any time space or reality, we all have the same primary purpose regardless of who we are. The primary purpose is continuous evolution. That can be translated into a basic mission of all existing beings, which is to produce WELL-BEING. No matter what anyone may have made you believe, your basic mission is and always will be to feel good. This is your point of electromagnetic attraction, in this case, there is no excess, that is, the more the better. And when I talk about feeling good, I’m not speaking in superficial terms. It is the art of being able to raise your vibration through the emotion you are experiencing. This is truly bringing awareness of your existence. It is what differentiates the evolution of all of us, the ability to control your reaction to external situations that trigger certain “triggers” in our mind. Much publicized nowadays as “emotional intelligence,” but it is much deeper than that. If you begin to practice this certain control now and keep the conscious awareness that no matter what happens, no matter what others do or say you will only accept what is true for you and that will do well for you and for you. The world will see how much difference it will make in your own life.

The only control we have is really about ourselves, we can not control the others, but we can control how we react to what others do. My brothers and sisters note that most of the problems created by our society in all ages are linked to the need of many to control what others do, to make them feel better, to feel in control. Thus begins the wars, the separations of couples, disagreements between brothers, between parents and children, and so on. This discord is sown, and it is at this point that we lose the battle for the dark, which we are easily manipulated. We get into such a low vibration that we become susceptible to all kinds of energy harassment and negative influence in our lives. For it is this kind of energy that they feed and strengthen.

The truths that are beginning to be revealed and especially that will be revealed at the apex of the Event, can and should shock a great mass of people, who will be without “ground”. For your whole belief system will collapse. Reactions to emotional shock may be the most diverse, depending on the individual’s state of consciousness. The mind will need some time to process and understand what is happening. Strong emotional reactions usually release a lot of energy in the physical body and a biochemical cocktail. They may bring some symptoms like low immunity and flu in milder cases. The individual can become introspective, go through an existential crisis, depression or react aggressively for self-defense in the most extreme cases. It can develop some temporary psychological disorders like bipolarity or Obsessive Disorder. The individual can be speechless or lose another meaning for a while, or even get into “total shock.” Unfortunately, many will go through a deep “psychological” pain as if their soul were in pieces, they will need a lot of help. New traumas can develop when someone is under a strong emotional influence but is at this point that change can happen in the mental settings of any person. So then only positive affirmations should be spoken to that person, for his unconscious will be fully open. This is the principle of Clinical Hypnosis, a tool that works. You who have children are daily programming your children’s minds with what you say to them.

We choose to work on the emotional level because the bonding of emotions is intimately projected into physicality almost instantaneously. We truly feel in the “skin” all the emotion we are experiencing. This occurs through a biochemical process that causes our emotion to trigger certain glands that emit neurotransmitter signals. Which in turn, make the production of specific hormones to be released into the bloodstream. So our emotions are the key to our self-mastery and healing. For all without exception, even the most evolved are here to heal some facet of their consciousness that still needs light. And the light in this case, as well as unconditional love, can be translated by the knowledge of the truth, which frees us totally as our teacher wisely taught us. We are here to help you learn consciously to modulate your energy through your emotions.

We need to understand that we have to heal ourselves, that we must overcome our fears, our traumas, our limiting beliefs. And prepare ourselves to fulfill the divine mission to which we have been summoned. And that’s where we really get into what matters.

Modifying the Energy Field Quickly and Efficiently

Our vibration or our energy field is totally adjusted or misaligned proportionally to what we are feeling. What we are talking about here is described by countless books, innumerable scientific experiments, and was spoken by the great masters of all ages as the basis for any spiritual evolution. This knowledge, always distorted by the Cabal and their religions of mind control. Highly recognized theories such as the “emotional contagion” and the various quantum experiences of interaction between emotion and change of electric charges, changing the way the wave frequency is projected. They corroborate and bring something conclusive and that is available to all. So by joining now the best of science and true spirituality, we can arrive at a 5-dimensional consciousness (which is not a place, but a vibration) with the use of mental images.

There is a scale of consciousness that was developed by American professor and scientist David Hawkins, who helped us to better understand the emotions and how to navigate in our consciousness. He leaves the fantastic knowledge that only one person, who vibrates alone in the frequency of love (above 500 points) opens the door that has the power to influence and modulate the energy of almost one hundred thousand other people. This is a sample of the power we have.

So let’s go to the practical steps:

Step 1 – Identify on the scale above what emotion you are feeling. And basically describe yourself whether it is positive or negative. We can consider above 200 as positive.

Step 2 – Declare the intention to raise your vibration with an affirmative mental command.

Note that our thoughts or mental images are produced according to our vibration, if you are in a low vibration range, you will not have access to productive thoughts at that moment. You need to stop and climb the scale before you want to create something good, or just thinking positively will not be possible. It will have to rise gradually.

Step 3 – Choose a positive memory that makes you feel better right now, relive that memory. Activate in you this vibration, feel like it is now. Your body will produce substances corresponding to that sense of well-being of the past.

At certain times depending on the emotional state certain memories will not be accessible, so choose the memory easier at that moment that allows you to raise the vibration.

Step 4 – Create a safe place in the mind, it can be a nature, a house. It does not matter if it is real or not, a place where you feel peace and tranquility and that you can return whenever you need it.

Step 5 – Create a bridge to the future, make a mental projection of your future. How, where and with whom you want to be. Imagine you in 5 years with all your life transformed and all your dreams manifested. Access and feel this as real. Imagine the new land after THE EVENT.

Step 6 – Visualize yourself as a tree or an animal. Soak up on earth and experience this fantastic experience.

We have the ability to deprogram and reprogram our mind and all our paradigms in this way. Going to the past and the future as we please, recreating memories change them. Heal traumas and correct psychological problems. It’s all real, just believe and do it right. If you do not consider yourself being able to do so, you can look out for a therapist. But know that only you can create a new paradigm in your mind through your conscious choice.

These steps can change your point of attraction easily. With practice it will start to become very easy, you start to have more control over your own life and stop being influenced by the Matrix of Control. You are coming out of the Matrix and really awakening to the reality and to the truth that we are all connected. What you do to others returns to you, that is the law.

Victory of the Light!

~ Article written by Dante

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Antarctic Ice Core records resolve competing Pole Shift Theories

[PFCLF Note:On  January 24th in response to a post on Cobra’s blog I posted Pole Shift? in an effort to ameliorate the concern and anxiety our members may feel from being told the world would be swept by mile-high tidal waves after the Event, and that only those within “Bubbles of Heaven” would remain safe. In the article below Dr. Michael Salla produces a much more scholarly rebuttal to those claims based on current ice core information from Antarctica.  

Although Dr Salla details very well the scientific evidence using ice cores, it does remain strange to me that no one seems to be willing to examine ancient Sumerian written records discovered by archeological researchers for evidence about what may have caused the extinction of 11.400 to 11,600 BCE. One alternative to the continuing discussion about impact events is that we were gripped by tidal forces from a passing intelligently guided planet-sized space craft.  Images taken from the SOHO satellites show large spherical objects close to the sun, objects the dwarf our planet in size, and which appear to be able to use plasma as an energy source.  So the evidence of large space craft able to affect the planet exists, and we should be serious about examining this as the source of the Holocene Boundary Event. I wrote about this in some detail last year in an article titled How the Axis Changed and Antarctica was Flash Frozen in 9400 BC”  Of course it may be much easier to consider that a natural event rather than a deliberate one caused the disaster. ]

A declassified CIA document called The Adam and Eve Story has generated much controversy over predictions of an upcoming pole shift (aka crustal displacement) and catastrophic events that may sweep the planet in the not distant future. The 57-page document is based on a book authored by Chan Thomas in 1963. In it, Thomas proposed a pole shift scenario that differed in significant ways with what Charles Hapgood had earlier proposed in his pioneering 1958 book, The Earth’s Shifting Crust.

Hapgood’s theory, which was endorsed at the time by Albert Einstein, proposed that the geophysical poles periodically move by as much as up to 40 degrees through crustal displacements. This phenomenon was brought about by the increasing weight of the polar ice caps which accumulate more and more ice over the millennia until they eventually generate sufficient centrifugal force due to the planet’s rotation, to make the crust move over the mantle as Einstein explained in the book’s foreword.

In The Adam and Eve Story, Chan proposed that the pole shift was much greater, as much as 90 degrees with the poles shifting into the equatorial zone in less than a day. Chan has proposed the poles would flip back and forth in this way so that Antarctica would eventually return to the South Pole region, and the Arctic would do likewise.

Each time the geographical poles did one of these 90 degree flips, there would be catastrophic winds and tidal waves all over the planet, especially in the equatorial region where the Earth’s spin was  1000 mph. Water and wind would continue to move in the westerly direction through the law of inertia, sweeping over the landmasses that traveled over the equatorial region during the shift as Thomas explained:

In ¼ to ½ a day the poles move almost to the equator, and all hell lets loose. The atmosphere and oceans don’t shift with the shell – they just keep on rotating West to East – and at the equator that speed is 1000 miles per hour. It has to be, normally, to make one rotation per day. So, while the shell shifts with the poles going toward the equator, the winds and oceans go eastward, blowing across the face of the earth with supersonic speeds, inundating continents with water miles deep….

You can see, then,  that ice ages are not a matter of advancing and retreating ice; it’s simply that different areas of the Earth are in polar regions at different times, for different durations of time, with the changes between positions taking place in a fraction of a day. [The Adam and Eve Story, pp.13-14]

The following video illustrates what happens during one of these 90 degree shifts, and what Thomas was proposing for what’s to come. One can easily see how devastating such a 90 degree shift could be and why the CIA may have been motivated to suppress such information.

According to Ben Davidson, author of the popular Earth Catastrophe series, this flipping back and forth would address paleomagnetic studies that show that the magnetic poles have been in their present locations for millions of years. Davidson concluded that this made Thomas’ pole shift theory much more compelling than Hapgood’s. In fact, Davidson believed Hapgood was putting out his theory as a “limited hangout” by the CIA in order to put the truth out in a way that later could be easily discredited.

Unfortunately for Davidson, ice core samples from Antarctica clearly support Hapgood and not Thomas’ theory. Ice core samples from East Antarctica date back as much as 1.5 million years. The following diagram illustrates ice core samples taken from different Antarctic regions and show how far back in time the ice sheets date.

Figure 1. Antarctic ice core drill sites with depth and record duration. From the US ITASE project.

The results from the ice core drill sites show that East Antarctica has been covered by ice for hundreds of thousands years, with Lake Vostok having some of the oldest discovered ice (220,000 years). Older ice core samples than those recorded in the above map have subsequently been found both at Lake Vostok (400,000 years), and the Dome C area (800,000 years) as shown in NOAA records.

A subsequent 2013 study asserted that ice core samples of up to 1.5 million years are most likely to be found in the Dome C area of East Antarctica. Put simply, scientists agree that East Antarctica has been covered by ice sheets for at least 1.5 million years, and likely much longer than that.

In contrast, the ice core samples in West Antarctica are only a few centuries old, with only one so far matching the age of many of the East Antarctic sites. This site is in the drilling area designated Boyd whose ice was found to be 70,000 years old as the above map illustrates.

The ice core records show conclusively that much of the Antarctic continent has been located in the polar zone (latitudes greater than 66 degrees) for at least 1.5 million years, and not in the equatorial zone (O-23 degrees latitude) as proposed by Thomas. Hapgood’s theory offers a better explanation for why only part of Antarctica has been ice-free for significant periods. But how do we explain the 70,000 year old ice sample found in the Byrd region of West Antarctica?

To find a definitive answer to where the geographical poles have been located and then move via crustal displacements to new positions, preserving some but not all the ice accumulated before the displacement, we can turn to the work of Rand and Rose Flem-Ath, authors of When the Sky Fell.

In their well-documented book, they used a range of archeological and fossil records to show where ice sheets have been found over the last 100,000 years, and how these positions had changed due to crustal displacements as first proposed by Hapgood. To date, I have found no other authors laying out such a compelling case for using available scientific data to track the respective positions of the geographic poles during the last 100,000 years.


Dr Sallas Article for the complete text


They attacked a draft board office to protest the Vietnam War. Fifty years later, the fallout continues.


They attacked a draft board office to protest the Vietnam War. Fifty years later, the fallout continues.

The three young men, dubbed the Silver Spring Three, poured blood on draft cards in suburban Maryland.

for the rest of the story, with pictures and links:





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The Galactic Codex

Planet Earth is the last planet in this universe under the occupation of the Dark Forces, the last relic of galactic wars that raged throughout the galaxy for millions of years.

As the Galaxy was being liberated from the grip of the Dark Forces, the Forces of Light have been evolving from a military force created in the urgent need to defend basic liberties of sentient beings towards a harmonious galactic and cosmic society. As beings within the Galactic Confederation have evolved spiritually and made their alignment and union with the Ascended Masters, they have discovered an inner codex that regulates all inter-relationships between beings of Light and their relation towards the Dark Forces and occupied planets. This codex is called the Galactic Codex and represents the legal basis for all actions of the Confederation in this and other galaxies. This Codex is not a rigid set of external laws but a systematized code of inner ethics of all souls of Light that all beings of Light accept with their free will because it reflects their inner truth.

We will now state the Galactic Codex in a form that is understandable to an average awakened being in a human society.

Section I: The Law of Divine Grace

Each sentient being has an unalienable and unconditional right to positive life experience.

To explain Section I we need to understand that suffering and pain have no value in enlightened Galactic society liberated from the influence of Dark Forces and other aspects of cosmic anomaly. To value pain, suffering and sacrifice as a part of the growth experience was a part of the programming from the Dark Forces in order to enslave the population of the occupied planets more easily.

Unconditional positive life experience of every sentient being in the liberated universe is guaranteed from the inner connection of every living being with the Source and strengthened by the power of Ascended Masters over matter which allows them to assist all living beings in their aspirations towards the Source and provide them with necessities of life. Life was never meant to be hard work and struggle but rather a journey of joy and creativity. Different subsections of Section I regulate all life in a liberated universe and all relationships between beings of Light so that conflicts never need to occur.

Let us explain the subsections:

Section I/1: Each sentient being has an unalienable and unconditional right to physical and spiritual abundance.

This subsection guarantees a positive life experience for every being in the liberated universe. The Ascended Masters provide for all necessities of living and for physical and spiritual richness and beauty using the power they have over redeemed matter of the liberated universe.

Section I/2: Each sentient being has an unalienable and unconditional right to Ascension.

This subsection explains how the Ascended Masters use their advanced understanding of spiritual technology of Ascension and by utilizing the Electric Fire of redemption assist all beings that free-willingly choose Ascension.

Section I/3: Each sentient being has an unalienable and unconditional right to merge with other beings in proportion with his/her position in the Soul Family.

This subsection is an instrument of regulation of all relationships inside a Soul Family. It guarantees the merging of beings of opposite polarity (twin souls, soulmates) and alignment of all other beings regardless of their state of development and outer conditions.

Section I/4: Each sentient being has an unalienable and unconditional right to all information.

This subsection is a guarantee that all beings receive all pieces of information they need to understand their role in the universe, greater perspective of evolution and all other pieces they need for their decisions, growth and well being. All this data is provided by Ascended Masters or other beings that supervise the evolutions of various races and civilizations.

Section I/5: Each sentient being has an inalienable and unconditional right to freedom.

This subsection provides that every being has an unlimited potential of growth and life experience. Since all beings in the liberated universe create only positivism, their freedom never opposes the freedom of other beings.

Section II: The Law of Dividing the Conflicting Parties

Each sentient being has an unalienable and unconditional right to be divided and protected from the negative actions of other sentient beings.

This section regulates the conditions in those sections of the universe that have just been liberated from the influence of the Dark Forces but that have not yet been accepted in the Confederation. It requires that the Forces of Light always divide the parties in conflict to protect them from producing mutual harm to each other. Then the Light Forces mediate the conflict until it is resolved. This section is often used to end wars and other armed conflicts.

Section III: The Law of Balance

Each sentient being that has chosen to live and act against the principles of Galactic Codex and refuses to, or is not able to, accept them now and balance the consequences of the past actions will be taken to the Central Sun, restructured into the basic elemental essence and begin a new cycle of evolution afresh.

This section regulates the relations between the Forces of Light and the Forces of Darkness. When defeated, beings that belong to the Forces of Darkness are given the opportunity to accept the Galactic Codex, do the best they can to correct the mistakes they made and to live positively afterwards. If they accept, they are forgiven and join the Confederation. If they are unable or unwilling to accept, they are taken to the Central Sun, their personalities and soul essences are restructured with the Electric Fire and their divine spark begin a new cycle of evolution.

Section IV: The Law of Intervention

The Galactic Confederation has an unalienable and unconditional right to the intervention in all situations where the Galactic Codex is violated, regardless of the local laws.

This section describes the policy of the Light Forces regarding occupied planets. The Confederation reserves the right to intervene in all areas, civilizations, planets or solar systems where the Galactic Codex is violated. It has the right to do so regardless of the position of the local civilizations about this intervention. It always has the right to use all peaceful means of education and regulation. If the critical mass of the Galactic Codex principles is violated, it has the right to use military force. Special cases are planets under direct occupation of the Dark Forces. The Dark Forces usually take the local population hostage to hinder the progress of the Forces of Light. On Earth they have threatened with nuclear war if the Light Forces would intervene. This is the main reason why the Light Forces have not yet liberated this planet (and not the so called we-will-not-intervene-because-we-respect-free-will, we-will-just-watch-as-the-suffering-goes-on nonsense). As in any hostage situation, this requires a lot of skillful negotiation and tactical approach. This situation is now being resolved and planet Earth will be liberated soon.

Section IV/1: Each sentient being has an unalienable and unconditional right of calling upon the Galactic Confederation in need and the Galactic Confederation has the right to assist, regardless of local laws.

This subsection gives a legal basis for intervention and assistance to all hostages of the Dark Forces. The Forces of Light always do the best they can to assist and improve the living conditions of all sentient beings, even on Earth. The situation on planet Earth just indicates how much more power darkness had over Light on this planet. Fortunately, this is changing now.

Section IV/2: The Galactic Confederation has an unalienable and unconditional right to the implementation of the Galactic Codex and of conquering the areas of Galactic Codex violation with military force if necessary.

This subsection gives a legal basis for the liberation of the occupied planets with military force. The military forces of the Confederation remove or give assistance in removal of the representatives of the Dark Forces and set the hostages free. Then other Confederation forces guide the process of acceptance of the planet into the Confederation by instructing the local population.

Perhaps some humans feel that the Confederation has no right to intervene and that humanity has the right to solve its problems by itself. This is simply not true. Many wars all over the planet and constant abuse of basic human rights have proven that humanity is not capable of handling its own situation. So it is much better that it receives wise guardians to guide it. The Confederation will give assistance in replacing current masters of the puppets (Dark Forces) that humanity has invited long ago in Atlantis. Then the Galactic Codex will finally become the universal code of ethics throughout the universe and darkness will be no more.

Source: Original article from Cobra’s blog: “Galactic Codex”, published on April 4, 2012.

This image is not intended to be a Aril, but one that suggests the situation during her captivity.

Point of Awareness: An Alien Perspective

A few years ago my friends and I read and discussed a PDF book titled Alien Interview by Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy. The small volume was fascinating for several reasons, first it purported to be a first person account of meeting and communicating with one of the survivors of the Roswell crash in 1947. As the book explains it:

The content of this book is primarily excerpted from the letter, interview transcripts and personal notes I received from the late Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy. Her letter to me asserts that this material is based on her recollection of communication with an alien being, who “spoke” with her telepathically. During July and August of 1947 she interviewed an extraterrestrial being who she identifies as “Airl”, and whom she claims was and continues to be an officer, pilot and engineer who was recovered from a flyer saucer that crashed near Roswell, New Mexico on July 8th, 1947.

The story is convincing and the author, Lawrence R. Spencer has included an appendix that requires more than half of the books 319 pages (164) which provide extensive support for the claims made.  I have included the book as a downloadable PDF linked from the article.

This image is not intended to be Airl, but one that suggests the situation during her captivity.

In the book Ms MacElroy describes her role as an Army Air Force Nurse (WAC) assigned to assist with the care of the survivor at (Kirkland) Army Air Force Base in New Mexico. While involved with her duties with the Alien, she began to receive telepathic communications, and was told that she was the only one because the other people in contact with the Alien were aggressive and only wanted to control the situation. As the relationship developed the Alien told Ms. MacElroy that she identified with being a female and wanted to called Airl. One of the pivotal statements from Airl explains her view about answering questions and why:

... I thought. "Will you answer questions from the
gallery now?"
"No.  I will not answer questions.  I will provide
information to you that I think will be beneficial to
the well-being of the immortal spiritual beings who
comprise humanity, and that will foster the survival of
all the myriad life forms and the environment of Earth,
as it is a part of my mission to ensure the preservation
of Earth.
"Personally, it is my conviction that all sentient
beings are immortal spiritual beings.  This includes
human beings.  For the sake of accuracy and simplicity I
will use a made-up word: "IS-BE".  Because the primary
nature of an immortal being is that they live in a
timeless state of "is", and the only reason for their
existence is that they decide to "be".
No matter how lowly their station in a society, every
IS-BE deserves the respect and treatment that I myself
would like to receive from others.  Each person on Earth
continues to be an IS-BE whether they are aware of the
fact or not."

While this book has much to discuss, the key part for me is described in the above paragraph. The “IS-BE” is identical to the concept of the Point of Awareness that accumulates all its experiences, in SCIET Dynamics, which is well presented in the article on this site titled The Soul Explained by SCIET Theory  Of course, the articulation of what is meant by “IS-BE” is extensive and provides a much better narrative than is possible from humanity’s limited perspective. Download the PDF and take a look at it, read if you have time and think about what this concept means to us in the context of the Soul.

Please write about your perceptions of the book in the comments section below. I will answer a often as possible. For your information and to inspire you read the book.  I have excerpted the first 28 pages of the Alien Interview in order to provide a sense of what the book contains.


Based On Personal Notes and Interview Transcriptions Provided by : Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy
Editing and Supplemental Footnotes by: Lawrence R. Spencer ( Author of “The Oz Factors” )
Copyright (c) 2008 by Lawrence R. Spencer. All Rights Reserved.
Cover and book design by Lawrence R. Spencer
Printed in The United States of America First Edition Printing: 2008
ISBN: 978-0-6152-0460-4

The Complete Alien Interview PDF


My sincerest thanks to the enthusiastic, insightful editorial support of Michel and Brenda. Thank you very much to all of the diligent and unselfish work of the owners, staff and tireless contributors and editors of upon which thematerial in this book relies heavily for efficacious documentary support of many of the footnoted items sited in the text of the transcripts and comments from Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy.


As far as the Editor of the book, “Alien Interview” is concerned, and for all practical purposes, the content of the book is a work of fiction. The Editor makes no claim to the factuality of the content, and in fact, cannot prove that the alleged author actually ever existed. Although some of the dates, locations, persons and incidents described may be factual or based on fact, there is no evidence to authenticate that equally as many may be subjective contrivances of the author.

All of the information, notes and transcripts received by the Editor are contained in their complete, original form, as represented in the book. The Editor is no longer in possession of any original documents or copies of original documents from the author, i.e. Mrs. MacElroy.

Some material contained in the book may have similarities to Earth philosophies as the variety of these are too numerous to list, and bear too many fundamental similarities to be easily differentiated. Although the book discusses the origins of the universe, the time track of the physical universe, paranormal activities of immortal and/or extraterrestrial beings, “aliens” or “gods”, it is in no way the intention of the Editor to represent, endorse, forward or assume the viewpoint of the author, any political doctrine, economic vested interest, scientific hypothesis, religious practice or philosophy, whether terrestrial or extraterrestrial.

The notes and transcripts contained in the book, are solely and only the based on the representations and documents provided by the author, the late Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy, unless otherwise specifically annotated by Footnotes in The Appendix of the book.

The Editor is not responsible for any assumptions, inferences or conclusions made by the reader based on the material is this book, which are solely and only the responsibility of the reader.

What is true for you, is true for you.

Lawrence R. Spencer — Editor


Table Of Contents


2 TABLE OF CONTENTS …………………………………………………

4 FOREWORD ………………………………………………………………

5 PREAMBLE…………………………………………………………………

6 DEDICATION ………………………………………………………………


8 DEFINITIONS …………………………………………………………………























150 APPENDIX: EDITOR’S FOOTNOTES………………………156- 303


“We ask, as Fools who know not Our Own Spirit:

Where are the hidden traces left by The Gods?”

— Rig Veda —
book i, stanza 164, lines 5 a & b


What greater brutality can be inflicted on anyone than to erase or deny the spiritual awareness, identity,
ability, and memory that is the essence of oneself?

— Lawrence R. Spencer — 2008


This book is dedicated to all Immortal Spiritual Beings, whether they are aware of themselves as such, or not. It is especially dedicated to the wisdom, courage and integrity of those Greater Beings, who in various incarnations at various times during the past, in the present and into the future, enkindle and carry the Flame of Truth into the darkest corners of the universe.

This dedication is not only to the philosophical teachings and technologies developed by these beings, but to the demonstrated and documented courage to apply their philosophy in the face of overwhelming ignorance, overt hostility and aggressive suppression by lesser beings and by the self- serving vested interests of inter-galactic and planetary political, economic, and religious institutions.

Though relatively few in number, the profound wisdom and heroic dedication of such beings, and those who share their quest, have been the only effective deterrent to spiritual slavery. Freedom, Communication, Creativity ,Trust and Truth for all Immortal Spiritual Beings in this universe is their legacy. The Good Examples set by them is our sanctuary and sustenance. Personal, diligent application of their teachings is our weapon against the dwindling spiral of chaos and oblivion that is the material universe.

— Lawrence R. Spencer —


Editorial Guidelines Used In This Book

I have tried not to edit the material I received from Mrs. MacElroy except to the degree necessary to make a logical sequence of the material she mailed to me. Wherever possible I have quoted or transcribed her original written notes verbatim.

In some instances I have taken editorial liberty to add other information, or supplementary commentary which I feel will add useful definitions, or clarification to the information given in the official transcripts, or to her remarks or observations. These appear as a numbered “(Footnote)” in the Appendix at the end of the book. All footnote references, where possible, are copied verbatim from the free internet encyclopedia website If information was not available through, I used the popular internet search engine to find a website reference that seemed most appropriate to the subject matter.

Mrs. MacElroy did not make a notation of dates in the most of the documents, so I am not certain that the sequence of material matches the actual sequence of events, or sequence of the interviews, except as noted on the official transcripts themselves.

Since it has been 60 years since the date of the interviews, and considering the age of Mrs. MacElroy before her death, I reasoned that she did not necessarily have an acute recollection of exact names, dates and times, except as recorded in the transcripts of July 8th through August 12th, 1947.

The material in this book is organized into three different types. The following notations will be used to designate where these appear in this book:


(TYPE FONT: Times Roman, 12 point)



a survival or non-survival plan or agenda which has been “clothed” to make it seem like something other than what it actually is.

any person, group or entity which prevents or controls communication to serve their own purposes, (plans or agenda).

— Reference: Page 37, The Oz Factors, by Lawrence R. Spencer. Mystery:

an enigma or problem involving paradox or apparent contradiction

profound, inexplicable, or secretive quality or character

— Reference:


The Mystery of UFOs and Extraterrestrials

If you have studied UFO phenomena at all, you are already familiar with the infamous Orson Welles radio broadcast of “War of the Worlds, And The Invasion from Mars” 1 (Footnote) on Oct. 30, 1938. This fictitious radio dramatization of an invasion of Earth by “aliens” incited a global UFO and extraterrestrial hysteria long before the UFO crash near Roswell, N.M. in 1947.

During the past 60 years, since the alleged Roswell crash, there have been tens of thousands of reported UFO sightings. A global hysteria has emerged from “evidence” of what is presumed to be extraterrestrial phenomenon. Concurrently, the unrelenting denial of this phenomenon by the U.S. government has precipitated an uninterrupted flurry of accusations, counter- accusations, cover-up conspiracy theories, lunatic fringe speculations, “scientific investigations”, etc., etc., ad nauseam, and a growing multitude of similar alleged “close encounters”.

My first thought when I received the package of documents from Mrs. MacElroy was: “This is just another set of Majestic-12 documents”.

I am referring to a “mysterious package” reportedly received by mail in 1984 shortly after the death of the last surviving member of the so- called “Majestic-12” committee, alleged to have been organized by President Harry Truman shortly after the Roswell incident in 1947.

There are several similarities to the “Majestic-12” documents and the package I received from Mrs. MacElroy. In the case of the former, an envelope was sent from an anonymous sender with no return address. It contained an undeveloped roll of film. That’s all. On the roll of film were photos of documents that were assumed to be authentic by the recipient and his colleagues whose vested interest, i.e. livelihood, depend heavily on attracting public notice and credibility to themselves as “leading authorities” on the subject of UFO phenomena. They have worked relentlessly since then to discover “proof” that the documents are authentic. Of course, government agencies deny everything alleged in the documents and anything having to do with the subject of extraterrestrials in general.

In addition, the subject has become so thoroughly overwhelmed with obvious false reports, discredited sources, hearsay, manufactured falsehoods, misunderstandings, missing information, added inapplicable information and a myriad of other conflicting complexities which have made the subject laughable or unapproachable as a science. This may be intentional, or simply a reflection of the general chaos and barbarism that is Humanity.

As for government denials and cover-ups, the events of September 11, 2001, have made it abundantly apparent to me that the U.S. government has destroyed any vestige of trust the American people and the world may have harbored, even through the Vietnam war, Watergate, and many similar betrayals, in the “honesty” of the American government, military and intelligence community, by blatantly lying to it’s own people about almost anything and everything.

In spite of vast numbers of “UFO sightings”, innumerable reports of “alien abductions”, and “close encounters” with extraterrestrials that pervade nearly all of prehistoric and recorded human history I found only one underlying, unifying, undisputable, axiomatic common denominator that permeates all of this data:

Assuming that subjective reality, or beliefs, of individuals is acceptable evidence, there has been no universally agreed upon “proof” that UFOs and / or extraterrestrial life forms exist whether based on government admission , physical evidence, circumstantial or subjective data.

There are several deductions I can infer from the lack of agreement, government admission or physical evidence that such things are real that, if verified, may lead to a workable solution to this mystery:


In spite of an enormous collection of subjective, circumstantial and objective “evidence” of extraterrestrial activity on and around Earth, the existence, intentions and the activities of extraterrestrials remain hidden and mysterious.


Universally agreed upon proof of extraterrestrial life based on subjective data, government admission, physical and circumstantial evidence are subject to conflicting vested interests, which has made such proof unattainable.

Collectively, these deductions beg the obvious question:

If extraterrestrials life forms exist, why is there no consistent, forthright , open, interactive communication between Mankind and Extraterrestrials?

Fortunately, subjective reality does not require evidence or “proof”. Therefore, I decided to write this book in order to pass along a subjective communication I received from Mrs. MacElroy to other people who may be interested in it.

Personally, I am not assuming that anything I received from Mrs. MacElroy is in any way authentic, with the exception of the envelope and the paper inside the envelope. I cannot substantiate any of it. Indeed, I can’t truly verify that there was ever such a person as Mrs. MacElroy other than a voice I heard over the phone in 1998. The voice could have been anyone. Personally, I do not have a vested interest in UFO research. Yes, I’ve written a few books about immortal spiritual beings — because I’m interested in the subject. But I haven’t sold enough of those books to pay for the time it took to write them.

It is a hobby. I earn my living as a small business consultant.

It is not my intention to justify, explain, or remedy any disability to perceive or understand the mysteries of extraterrestrial existence, UFOs, governments agendas or spiritual abilities. Nor is it intended to educate, persuade, or promote to anyone that any of these phenomena exist. Furthermore, what I may or may not think about any of this is irrelevant.

Moreover, I have burned all of the original documents, including the envelope I received from Mrs. MacElroy. I do not want to spend the rest of my life being hounded by UFO researchers, government agents, grocery store tabloids reporters, UFO advocates and de-bunkers alike, or anyone else. Any “proofs” or attempts to authenticate the assertion that Mrs. MacElroy actually interviewed an alien in 1947 will have to be done by others.

Ripley says, “Believe It, or Not”. 3 (Footnote) I say, “What’s true for you, is true for you”.

Lawrence R. Spencer Editor

About The Source Of Material In This Book

The content of this book is primarily excerpted from the letter, interview transcripts and personal notes I received from the late Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy. Her letter to me asserts that this material is based on her recollection of communication with an alien being, who “spoke” with her telepathically. During July and August of 1947 she interviewed an extraterrestrial being who she identifies as “Airl”, and whom she claims was and continues to be an officer, pilot and engineer who was recovered from a flyer saucer that crashed near Roswell, New Mexico on July 8th, 1947.

Obviously, anyone reading anything about this most famous, or infamous, of all “flying saucer” or “alien encounter” events must necessarily be highly suspicious regarding 1) the authenticity of the report and 2) the credibility of the source of information, especially when it appears for the first time sixty years after the alleged event!

I received the aforementioned letter from Mrs. MacElroy on September 14th, 2007, together with a package of documents. The package contained three types of documents:

1) hand-written notes in cursive on ordinary, lined, 8 1/2″ X 11″school notebook paper, which I assume had been written personally by Mrs. MacElroy.

2) notes typed on a manual typewriter on plain, white 20 lb. bond paper, which I am assume were prepared personally by her. At least both had the appearance of having been written in the same hand writing, and / or typed on the same typewriter consistently throughout. The writing in the notes I received also appeared to be the same as the writing on the address and return address of the manila envelope I received from Navan, Ireland, which was postmarked on 3 September, 2007. Since I am not a forensic expert, or handwriting analyst, my opinion in these matter is not a professionally qualified judgment.

3) many pages of typewritten transcriptions of her interview with the alien. These were obviously typed on a different typewriter. These pages were typed on a different type of paper and showed apparent signs of age and repeated handling.

None of these notes were assembled in any particular order, or by date, except where indicated by a sentence or paragraph of preamble or explanation by her, or by extrapolation from the context of the pages.

Voltaire 4 (Footnote) is quoted as having said: “History is a Mississippi of lies”.

According to the comments made by the alien in the interview transcripts, supplied by Mrs. MacElroy, the fundamental lesson of history is that many, many gods have become men, but very few men, if any, have returned to being a god again.

According to the alien being — “Airl” — if anything he / she / it supposedly communicated can be trusted — and if the “translation” or interpretation of this alleged communication is accurate, the history of this universe is a “River of Lies” down which the might and freedom of all-powerful, god-like, immortal spiritual beings ended and was lost in a Sea of Matter and Mortality.

Furthermore, according to the very direct and undiplomatic statements made — which seem to express the “personal opinion” of the alien — if one were traveling the far reaches of the universe in search of a place called “Hell”, it would be an accurate description of Earth and the inhabitants in its current condition.

To further compound, complicate and magnify the “incredible” source of the “interview transcriptions” I received from Mrs. MacElroy is the fact that they are:

1) based almost entirely on “telepathic communication” between the alien and Mrs. MacElroy.

2) many of these interviews discuss “paranormal” activities of “immortal spiritual beings”.

Of course, most “scientific authorities” are unwilling to acknowledge or perceive spiritual phenomena of any kind.

The dictionary definition of the word paranormal is: adjective:

1. cannot be explained by scientific methods
2. supernatural, or seemingly outside ”normal” sensory channels

By definition, people who use the word “paranormal” are 1) not able to explain spiritual phenomena and 2) spiritual phenomena are outside of their normal sensory channels.

In short, scientists suffer from the inability and/or unwillingness to perceive and/or explain spiritual activities. Therefore, the discussion of spiritual activities or spiritual universes in this book are expected to be understood only by those who can and will perceive such things.

According to the time spans related by the alien in several of the interviews, there are a number of compelling and heretofore unknown reasons that suggest the possibility that many extraordinary miscalculations have been made by Earth scientists regarding the origins and antiquity of the universe, Earth, life forms and events. Of course, these may or may not be accurate either, as time and it’s ugly step-child, history, are largely subjective.

However, it can be observed that, by contrast with interstellar or “macrocosmic time”, the historical perspective of residents of Earth is limited to a relatively microscopic period of time, compared to what are considered to be “recent events” in the chronology of an space travel civilization, much less the entire time span of the universe.

The geological record of Earth is reckoned, by the best guesses of scientists, to be only about 4 billion years. The antiquity of homo sapiens in the archaeology textbooks is estimated at only a few million years, at most. Even the entire biological spectrum is considered to have existed on this planet for only a few hundred million years. And, by and large, the personal memory of individual beings on this planet is limited to only one lifetime.

All other dates, events, or interpretations of events cited in this book are from terrestrial sources, which are purely subjective observations, conjectures, or inventions of human beings, including those of the author, and must therefore be credited or disregarded by the reader accordingly, considering the penchant of Earth inhabitants to myopia, egocentricity, and general ignorance of the several universes in which we dwell.

This book is intended to be an informal presentation of information provided to me, sixty years after the fact, of a series of interviews between an alien space craft officer, pilot & engineer and an Army Air Force surgical nurse.

Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy Biographical Information

Since I have never met Mrs. MacElroy in person, and spoke with her over the phone only once for about 20 minutes, I can not vouch personally for her as a credible source of information. In fact, I cannot factually substantiate that such a person actually existed, accept that I did speak with her on the phone and I received hand-written material in the mail which was sent from a physical address in Ireland.

When I spoke to her on the phone in 1998, I was living in Florida. At the time of our brief phone interview, Mrs. MacElroy lived on Scotty Pride Drive in Glasgow, Montana. I know this because I mailed a copy of my book, The Oz Factors, to her as a gift after it was published in 1999. I am sure she received the book, because she refers to it by name in the letter I received from Ireland, and says that she read it.

I did a little research on the internet about Glasgow, Montana for my own interest. Glasgow was founded in 1887 as a railroad town that became popular during the 1930s because President FDR requested that Fort Peck Dam be constructed there which became a huge source of employment for the Glasgow area. In the 1960s the population flourished up to 12,000 because of Glasgow Air Force Base (SAC), which was used during the Vietnam conflict and the earlier part of the ‘Cold War’. The base was deactivated and closed in 1969.

When I talked to Mrs. MacElroy on the phone she mentioned that she had been relocated there by the U.S. Air Force after her service was completed, and that’s where she met her husband, who was an engineer. I don’t think she mentioned his first name. However, he worked on building the Fort Peck Dam, which created the massive Fort Peck Lake. Although the dam was finished in 1940, he was a great fisherman and outdoorsman, so he stayed in the area. I gathered that the Irish heritage of the place had something to do with it, but didn’t pursue that point with her. I haven’t been able to find any record of a “MacElroy” who worked at the dam, but the personnel records from that period are virtually non-existent as far as I can determine.

I contacted her during my research for The Oz Factors book because I was led to believe, through a very circuitous line of investigation, that this womenwas suspected of having been involved with alien contact at Area 51, or the Roswell crash site, or something similar.

Through a sequence of circumstantial inferences and accidental referrals, I actually found her number in the phone book and called her up just on the chance that there might really be such a person.

Needless to say, when I called her she was less than forthcoming in her response to my questions. However, I think she was impressed by my genuine and innocent sincerity to get information for my book, and realized that I had no nefarious or financially motivated purposes or reason to exploit her in any way. Nonetheless, she did not give me any useful information at that time, except to say that she had been in the Army and was stationed in New Mexico in 1947.

She could not discuss anything whatsoever about any kind of incident, as her life depended on remaining silent. Although this piqued my interest even more, it was futile to try to push her any further, so I gave up and forgot about her until last September, when I got the package from Ireland.

I tried to contact her in Ireland at the return address on the package, but received no reply from her, nor have I been able to find anyone in Meath County, Ireland who was acquainted with either of them except the landlady from whom they rented a room for a few weeks before their deaths, which seemed to have occurred simultaneously, although I have no real evidence of this.

However, the post mark of the envelope she sent to me was stamped at the post office in Navan, Co. Meath, Ireland on the date sited above. Since there is an actual residence (according to Google Maps) at the return address shown on the envelope, I wrote to the address and was advised by the home owner that both Mrs. MacElroy and her husband, whose name turns out to have been “Paul”, were both recently deceased. She said that the cremated remains of Mrs. MacElroy and her husband were interred at Saint Finian Cemetery on Athboy Road.

Subsequently, I have not been able to find any record of her under the maiden name of O’Donnell, nor have I had any success at discovering any personal friend, family member or document to confirm her birth, medical education, or military record, marriage or death, with the exception of her landlady in Ireland (who is not a relative) just before her death. I suspect that this is the false identity given to her by the military when she left Roswell, as mentioned in her notes.

In either case, it seems likely that her identity and all evidence of her has been expunged from the public record. I understand that certain government agencies are adept at covering up evidence, or making records (and people) disappear. It seems likely that this has been done in her case, due to the highly sensitive nature of the Roswell incident and consistent with the rest of the alleged “cover up”.

Inasmuch as I do not have any further information to verify or substantiate that any of the notes of these “interviews” sent to me by Mrs. MacElroy are in any way factual, other than what I have already mentioned, let the reader beware, and take heed accordingly!

Mrs. MacElroy writes:

I have reconsidered my position, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is my realization that you were right. I do have a responsibility to myself,
at least. I can not possibly tell you the personal Hell 5 (Footnote) of ethical irresolution and spiritual ambivalence I have endured since 1947. I do not want to keep playing the game of “maybe I should have, or maybe I shouldn’t have”, through the rest of Eternity!

Therefore, I think the time has come to pass along my secret knowledge to someone I think will understand it. I don’t think it would be responsible of me to take the knowledge I have into the silent afterlife, beyond reach or recognition. I think there is a greater good to be served than protecting the “vested interests” for whom this information is considered a matter of “national security”, whatever that means, and is therefore justification for making it “TOP SECRET”. 6 (Footnote)

Also, I am now 83 years old. I have decided to leave this body, which has outlasted it’s usefulness to me, using a painless method of self-administered euthanasia.7 (Footnote) I have a very few months to live, and nothing to fear or lose.

So, I have moved away from Montana, where my husband and I lived for most of my life, to spend our remaining days in a lovely rented upstairs bedroom in a house in the homeland of my husband’s family in County Meath, Ireland. 8 (Footnote)

I will die not far from “The Great Mound” at Knowth and Dowth, the “Fairy Mound of Darkness”. These are sacred “cairns” or massive stone structures that were erected about 3,700 BCE and engraved with indecipherable hieroglyphs — about the same time as pyramids and other inexplicable stone monuments were being built all over the Earth.

I am also not far from “The Hill of Tara”, 10 (Footnote) that was once the ancient seat of power in Ireland where 142 kings are said to have reigned in prehistoric time.

This information, which has been suspected and/or speculated upon by so many for so long, has been constantly denied by mainstream media, academia, and the Military-Industrial Complex 11 (Footnote) that President Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell address.

As you known in July,1947,the Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) 12 (Footnote) issued a press release stating that personnel from the field’s 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed “flying disc” from a ranch near Roswell, New Mexico, sparking intense media interest. 13 (Footnote)

Later the same day, the Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force 14 (Footnote) stated that Major Jesse Marcel, who was involved with the original recovery of the debris, had recovered only the tattered remnants of a weather balloon. The true facts of the incident have been suppressed by the United States government since then.

You may not know that I was enlisted in the U.S. Women’s Army Air Force(WAC) 15 (Footnote) Medical Corp which was a part of the US Army back then. I was assigned to the 509th Bomb Group as a Flight Nurse 16 (Footnote)at the time of the incident.

When the news that there had been a crash was received at the base, I was asked to accompany Mr. Cavitt, the Counter Intelligence Officer, 17 (Footnote) to the crash site as the driver of his vehicle, and to render any needed emergency medical assistance to any survivors, if necessary. 18 (Footnote) Therefore, I briefly witnessed the wreckage of an alien space craft, as well as the remains of the several alien personnel aboard the craft who were already dead.

When we arrived I learned that one of the personnel on board the craft had survived the crash, and was conscious, and apparently uninjured. The conscious alien was similar in appearance, but not the same as, the others. 19 (Footnote)

None of the other personnel present could communicate with the survivor, as the being did not communicate verbally or by any recognizable signs. However, while I examined the “patient” for injuries I immediately detected and understood that the alien being was attempting to communicate with me by “mental images”, or “telepathic thought”, 20 (Footnote) which projected directly from the mind of the being.

This was partly due to the fact that I was a nurse, and could attend to the physical needs of the alien, as well as serve as a non-threatening communicator and companion. After all, I was the only woman at the site and the only one who was not armed. I was thereafter assigned permanently to serve as a “companion” of the alien at all times. 21 (Footnote)

Chapter One

My First Interview With The Alien


“By the time the alien had been returned to the base I had already spent several hours with her. As I mentioned, Mr. Cavitt told me to stay with the alien, since I was the only person among us who could understand her communication. I could not understand my ability to “communicate” with the being. I had never before that time experienced telepathic communication with anyone.

The non-verbal communication I experienced was like the understanding you might have when a child or a dog is trying to get you to understand something, but much, much more direct and powerful! Even though there were no “words” spoken, or signs made, the intention of the thoughts were unmistakable to me. I realized later that, although I received the thought, I did not necessarily interpret it’s meaning exactly.

I think that the alien being was not willing to discuss technical matters, due to the nature of her position as an officer and pilot with the duty to maintain the security and confidentiality required by her own “unit” or organization. Any soldier who is captured by the “enemy” in the line of duty has a responsibility to withhold vital information, even in the face of interrogation or torture, of course.

But, in spite of that, I have always felt that the alien being was not really trying to hide anything from me. I just never got that feeling. Her communication always seemed honest and sincere to me. But, I suppose you can never know for sure. I definitely feel that I shared a unique “bond” with the alien. It was a kind of “trust” or empathy that you have with a patient, or a child. I think this is because the alien could understand that I was really interested in “her” and had no harmful intention, nor would I allow any harm to come to her, if I could prevent it. This was true too.

I refer to the alien as “her”. Actually, the being was not sexual in any way, either physiologically or psychologically. “She” did have a rather strong, feminine presence and demeanor. However, in terms of physiology, the being was “asexual” and had no internal or external reproductive organs. Her body was more like the body of a “doll” or “robot”. There were no internal “organs”, as the body was not constructed of biological cells. It did have a kind of “circuit” system or electrical nervous system that ran throughout the body, but I could not understand how it worked.

In stature and appearance the body was quite short and petite. About a 40 inches tall. The head was disproportionately large, relative to arms, legs and torso, which where thin. There were three “fingers” on each of two” hands” and “feet” which were somewhat prehensile. 22 (Footnote) The head had no operational “nose” or “mouth” or “ears”. I understood that a space officer does not need these as space has no atmosphere to conduct sound. Therefore, sound related sensory organs are not built into the body. Nor does the body need to consume food, hence, the absence of a mouth.

The eyes were quite large. I was never able to determine the exact degree of visual acuity of which the eyes were capable, but I observed that her sense of sight must have been extremely acute. I think the lenses of the eyes, which were very dark and opaque, may also have been able to detect waves or particles beyond the visual spectrum of light. 23 (Footnote) I suspect that this may have included the full range of the electromagnetic spectrum, 24 (Footnote) or more, but I do not know this for sure.

When the being looked at me her gaze seemed to penetrate right through me, as though she had “x-ray vision”. 25 (Footnote) I found this a little embarrassing, at first, until I realized that she had no sexual intentions. In fact, I don’t think she ever even had the thought that I was male or female.

It become very obvious after a short time with the being that her body did not require oxygen, food or water or any other external source of nutrition or energy. As I learned later, this being supplied her own “energy”, which animated and operated the body. It seemed a little bit eerie at first, but I got used to the idea. It’s really a very, very simple body. There is not much to it, compared to our own bodies.

Airl explained to me that it was not mechanical, like a robot, nor was it biological. It is animated directly by her as a spiritual being. Technically, from a medical standpoint, I would say that Airl’s body could not even be called “alive”. Her “doll” body is not a biological life form, 26 (Footnote) with cells, and so forth.

It had a smooth skin, or covering which was gray in color. The body was highly tolerant to changes in temperature, atmospheric conditions, and pressure. The limbs were quite frail, without musculature. In space there is no gravity, 27 (Footnote) so very little muscle strength is needed. The body was used almost entirely on space craft or in low, or no-gravity environments. Since Earth has a heavy gravity, the body was not able to walk around very well as the legs were not really suited to that purpose. The feet and hands were quite flexible and agile however.

Over night, before my first interview with the alien, the area had been transformed into a buzzing hive of activity. There were a dozen men working on setting up lights and camera equipment. A motion picture camera and microphone and a tape recorder was there also set up in the “interview room”. (I don’t understand why a microphone was needed, since there was no verbal communication possible with the alien.) There was also a stenographer 28 (Footnote) and several people busily typing on typewriters.

I was informed that an expert foreign language interpreter and a “code breaking” team had been flown to the base during the night to assist with my efforts to communicate with the alien. There were also several medical personnel — specialists in various fields — to examine the alien. And, a professor of psychology was there to help formulate questions and “interpret” the answers. As I was just a nurse, I was not considered to be a “qualified” interpreter, even though I was the only one there who could understand anything the alien was thinking!

There were many subsequent conversations between us. Each “interview” resulted in an exponential increase in understanding between us, as I will discuss later on in my notes. This is the first transcript with the answers to a list of questions provided to me by the intelligence officer at the base which I debriefed to the stenographer immediately following the interview.”

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Dane Arr

May 12, 2019